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S3 #11

S3E11 Our First 4 Shows: New Orleans, Austin, Dallas, Nashville

Sometimes the longest journeys can begin with the performance of a single live song. Over the course of a few unforgettable days, we traced the song lines through New Orleans, Austin, Dallas, and Nashville. We crossed state lines and time zones. We traded highways for own ways and back again, following a trail of songs that have been traveling beside us some for decades. All of this unfolds nightly across cities and theater aisles and airport terminals and hotel lobbies, over late night meals and early morning departures, and spans Michelin star restaurants to hot dogs on the streets before bed. It's where familiar songs reveal new emotional landscapes, where strangers become friends, where old friends find each other again, and where the music quietly reminds us that we're part of something much larger than ourselves. Each city carried its own atmosphere, its own heartbeat, its own conversation with the music that filled the room.  Somewhere in between the anticipation, the reunions, the laughter, the long drives, and the delayed flights that stitched this past week together, we found something that we treasure every time we're lucky enough to do this. The chance for us to be together. So by the end of days like these, you stop remembering which city held what song. What you remember is the feeling of choosing some chasing something beautiful from one horizon to the next. So tonight we're looking back on The first four shows that we attended of the In Times of Dragons US tour. And we're not here to rank the performances or settle on definitive favorites, but we're here to just trace the threads that connected everything, the surprises that stayed with us, the listeners we finally met, and old friends that we embraced and the quiet realization that this music continues to bring us back to each other and through that back to Tori. So please join us as we retrace the song lines as they sing.
S3 #9

S3E9 Tori, Queerness, and Pride featuring John Arthur Hill

We are gay gasping in excitement as we celebrate Pride month by having a much needed - and much requested - dialogue about Tori’s passionate, lifelong relationship with and connection to the queer community. As if that weren’t SINsual enough, we have the absolute delight and privilege of doing so by welcoming true Renaissance Man, Very Famous Homosexual, and most importantly, staunch Toriphile, John Arthur Hill to the podcast.  Chances are you already know John - either from his wickedly funny social media presence, or from his Sirius Radio shows The John Hill Show and Andy Cohen Live, or perhaps you’ve been fortunate enough to catch his iconic standup musical Wellness Check, which traces his journey from being a teenage country singer at Six Flags in San Antonio Texas, to Broadway, and, of course, to SiriusXM. Along the way, he performs original songs at the piano and shares stories from every chapter of his life. Some of his most celebrated compositions include The Same Five Gays; Careful With The Mics; CrossBody Gay; and an X-rated country song that got him banned from TikTok and must be seen live to be fully appreciated. Broadway fans will know him from roles in The Boy From Oz, where he also understudied Hugh Jackman, as well as part of the original Broadway cast of Hairspray. Behind the scenes, John has built an impressive television career as a writer and producer on shows including Watch What Happens Live, Project Runway, Top Chef, and, in case you missed the 32 other times I mentioned he was gay, Kathy Griffin: My Life on the D-List. Later this July you can find John in Provincetown - we hear he’s gonna see some Bears there! - debuting his brand new show Silk and Loose - which we cannot wait to hear ALL about. So, please join us in conversation with John Arthur Hill! 
S3 #8

S3E8 Tori in the Garden with Mississippi Vegan

In this savory and sweet episode of Introverted but Willing to Discuss Tori Amos, we are joined by Timothy Pakron, cookbook author, photographer, food stylist, recipe architect, gardener, and the creative force behind Mississippi Vegan. Timothy’s acclaimed cookbook Mississippi Vegan reimagines Southern, Cajun, and Creole cuisine through a plant-based lens, with recipes rooted in the food, land, traditions, and family stories of his Mississippi Gulf Coast childhood. His work celebrates place, memory, beauty, queerness, ritual, and the ever-evolving idea of comfort. But behind all that lush, edible magic is something else we obviously needed to discuss: Timothy is a huge Tori Amos fan. In this conversation, we talk about his personal Tori origin story, the songs and performances that shaped him, and the creative world he has built through food, gardening, music, and self-making. We also get into the full-circle magic of Timothy’s forthcoming book Garden Variety being endorsed by none other than Tori herself — a moment that feels less like “famous person liked my book” and more like an artist who helped shape Timothy’s inner world finding her way into something he created from that very world. Using Timothy’s special Garden Variety-inspired YouTube playlist as our guide, we wander through gardens, kitchens, songs, sensuality, Southernness, memory, and the strange little portals that open when music, food, and creative devotion meet. Join us as we show you the things you’ve been missing, show you the ways you forgot to be speaking, and show you the ways to get back to the garden. Mississippi Vegan instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mississippivegan/ Timothy's Garden Variety playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwpcDMwM6mqjq9stvIPBa5c25kYUglMDg&si=wxNxzAbIdjzn1u8q Tori Amos offers quarantine comfort with a recipe for vegan mushroom stew: https://www.npr.org/2020/05/04/849110966/tori-amos-offers-quarantine-comfort-with-a-recipe-for-vegan-mushroom-stew
S3 #7

S3E7 Ranking Tori Amos's Albums

Welcome to all of our sonic librarians and album archivists! In this episode we are doing something extremely dangerous to our reputations in the Tori fandom, and maybe even with Tori herself… We are ranking the albums. AAHHHHHHhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Before anyone lights a candle circle around their #1 album and starts sending nasty messages, this is not definitive, objective, or scientific Tori scholarship. This is just three longtime fans having fun and seeing where our hearts land right now, in this particular moment, because honestly In Times of Dragons has scrambled our brains a little bit. The new album has us realizing some albums have quietly climbed the ranks while others maybe hit us differently than they used to. And this new one came crashing in. To be clear: this isn’t about declaring “the best” Tori Amos album. It’s about where these records live for us right now, what’s grown with us. Will we contradict ourselves? Absolutely. Will we offend somebody by ranking their favorite at the bottom? Completely. But that’s part of the fun. As a wise woman once said, “if it’s too loud turn it up” and we’re going to do just that. So unzip your religion, lower your expectations for objectivity, and let’s rank some Tori Amos albums! RANKED LIST ***SPOILER*** * * * * * * 16 Midwinter Graces 15 The Beekeeper 14 Ocean to Ocean 13 Unrepentant Geraldines 12 Abnormally Attracted to Sin 11 Night of Hunters 10 Little Earthquakes 9 American Doll Posse 8 Strange Little Girls 7 In Times of Dragons 6 To Venus and Back 5 Boys for Pele 4 Under the Pink 3 Scarlet’s Walk2 Native Invader1 From the Choirgirl Hotel
S2 #7

S2E7 Tori Amos and the Media featuring Rich Juzwiak

We’re doing things a bit differently as we welcome our very first guest for a very special episode, where we’ll attempt to scratch the surface of Tori’s complicated relationship with the media over the past three decades. We’ll explore not only how she’s been represented (and misrepresented) by an often unforgiving and unflattering press, but also the ways in which Tori’s intuition and perceptiveness allowed her to have the upper hand, talking circles around and discomfiting her inquisitors, and making clear that she wouldn’t back down from her ideals or be silenced by patriarchal standards -  way before it was cool or safe or, let’s be frank, not potentially career-ending to do so. Helping us to tackle this red-hot topic is a written and literal voice many of our listeners will be familiar with, both from the at once provocative and positively silly podcast Pot Psychology and his writing in The New York Times, Pitchfork, The Washington Post, Spin, Jezebel, and Gawker, among other publications. He also co-authors Slate’s sex advice column How to Do It. A true raconteur and renaissance man - Rich Juzwiak! Rich's latter day playlist made with love by Joey, Kristen, and Matt Recent Pitchfork reassessment of Boys for Pele (2025) Q Magazine “Hips. Lips. Tits. Power." (1994) Rolling Stone review of Boys for Pele (1996) Rolling Stone cover story (1998) Tori on Roseanne’s talk show (1998) Tori on Rosie O’Donnell (1999) Tori on the Daily Show (1999) Tori on The View (1999) Rolling Stone Beekeeper review (2004) Stylus review THR Full Oscar Songwriters Roundtable featuring Tori Amos, Justin Timberlake, John Legend, Alicia Keys, Sting (2016) Rick Beato interview (2024)
S3 #6

S2E6 The 20 Most Underrated Tori Amos Songs

In this episode, we ponder what it means for a Tori Amos song to be “underrated.” Is “underrated” in this context even something definable? Or is it ultimately subjective and personal to the individual listener?  Is a song underrated because Tori rarely or never performs it? Or is it a song that’s been played so many times that we’ve taken it for granted and can no longer hear the genius and the grit that went into its creation? Or perhaps it lives on a latter-day Tori record that’s less celebrated, less heard by the general public?  In the spirit of our wildly successful – and a touch controversial – Best of Tori Amos episode, we bring to you The 20 Most Underrated Tori Songs. We repeated our very scientific method of each crafting individual lists of what we believe to be Tori’s most underrated tracks – from proper albums only; no bsides, no soundtracks, no covers, no seasonal music - tallying each song’s respective points and then ranking the ranking them in ascending order.  The result is a playlist that spans many - but not all - of Tori’s records, chock full of gags, goops, gogs, and go-figures. Given how underrated we likely all agree Tori is in the broader history of contemporary music, this very episode may be the definition of a fool’s errand. Regardless, in the spirit of the woman we call Tori once calling herself an “ant fucker,” we are Introverted but willing to discuss Tori Amos’ most underrated songs. Playlists:20 Most Underrated Songs JVKKMM
S2 #4

S2E4 The Tori Amos Country Album

Greetings to the cowboys, the snakes, and the kin among us. Tonight we have a real southern tale to tell. Somewhere out past the cat’s whiskers and royal palm, where the air hangs heavy with history, there’s a sound—low, humming, ancient. Maybe it’s a siren calling from a forgotten Southern shore, or the echo of Datura blooming under an October moon. Or maybe—just maybe—it’s the land calling back.Tonight, we’re following that sound through Tori Amos’ most Southern-infused songs—the ones laced with heat, history, and a little bit of blood memory.Now, let’s put our alligator boots in the dirt. Yes, Tori was born in North Carolina, but she grew up in Maryland—Southern enough if you’re feeling generous, but let’s be honest, it’s not exactly Dixie. Still, this lizard woman knows the South. The places where time bends a little differently. Her Cherokee blood runs deep, and her family’s history is carved into the land like a story waiting to be sung. And yes, the song lines, they do indeed sing.Whether she’s summoning the turquoise serpents, calling out to the Merman in a rising tide, we’re mapping out a Tori playlist where the South isn’t just a place—it’s a feeling. And if we get lost along the way, well… we’ll just drive all night until we find our way back.So let’s go to her Southern land of gold. Just go. Tonight we are Introverted but willing to mess with a southern girl.Playlists:JVKKMM
S2 #3

S2E3 Tori Amos' Silliest Songs

Known for her dramatic intensity and often-dark, broodingly romantic compositions, Tori Amos has perhaps unfairly gotten a reputation for being very, very serious. To be fair, sometimes she is (and we love it!). However, contrary to popular belief, when you take a closer look, Tori also has an extremely funny side. Her particular tongue-in-cheek brand of wit often translates directly into key songs that provide moments of oppositional levity and sweet relief amidst some of her most emotionally-searing sonic landscapes. Tori Amos’ “Silly Songs” have always been a part of the fabric of her musical worlds and are well-documented, but they were officially named in 1996 with the release of several b-sides that directly contradicted the more bleak album tracks from the legendary Boys For Pele. Songs like “Graveyard”, “Toodles Mr. Jim”, and “That’s What I Like Mick (The Sandwich Song”) gave listeners a warm, welcomed glimpse of Tori’s slightly left of center sense of humor, while still fully highlighting her musical chops. Whether she’s almost running over an angel, smacking down George Bush Jr with a sassy “who’s your daddy?” or chatting up God to confess her foodie sins, it is important to remember Tori is not afraid to be a ‘lil silly (as beautifully evidenced in her most recent release: the whimsical new music for her New York Time best-selling children’s book Tori and the Muses). So keep your hoochie, program your sodas and join Kristen, Matt and Joey in the Faerie Workshop to explore the magical, playful world of Tori Amos’ Silly Songs, where laughter and joy are an inevitability, and where a wide variety of artisanal baked goods are essential to the narrative.MM playlistKK playlist JV playlist
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